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Edge Effect: Where Art Meets the Landscape – In Conversation with Daniele Frazier

At Twin Barns at The Staats House, artist and curator Daniele Frazier brought contemporary art into dialogue with a 17th-century Dutch timber barn complex. Now that the exhibition has come to an end, she reflects on the relationship between art and architecture, the blurred boundaries between the natural and the manufactured, and what remains when a site-responsive exhibition disappears.

©Valerie Shaff
©Valerie Shaff

At Twin Barns at The Staats House, a restored 1654 Dutch timber barn complex reimagined by architecture firm Barlis Wedlick, Edge Effect brought contemporary art into dialogue with historic architecture and the surrounding landscape. Curated by Daniele Frazier and Alix Becker, the exhibition brought together works by Margot Becker, Trenton Duerksen, Frazier and Eric Wolf, exploring the ecological threshold between cultivated farmland and untamed wilderness.

Across sculpture, hand-loomed textiles, monochromatic paintings and time-based video, the artists examined the shifting boundaries between the natural and the manufactured. The barn's centuries-old hemlock beams and traces of agricultural life became an active part of the experience, while the transition from summer to autumn introduced another layer of change.

Now that the exhibition has concluded, Frazier reflects on the relationship between art, architecture and ecology, and on what remains when a site-responsive exhibition disappears. From the curatorial value of historic structures to the tension between permanence and impermanence, the conversation considers how art can transform our perception of a place without erasing its past.

The Twin Barns ©John Gruen
The Twin Barns ©John Gruen

Now that Edge Effect has come to an end, what remains of the exhibition for you? Can a site-responsive work leave a trace on a place after it has been removed?

What remains is an altered relationship between looking and remembering. It is necessary to think about the difference between site-specific and site-responsive. A site-specific work is tethered to a single coordinate; once removed, its logic collapses. A site-responsive work behaves more like a traveller or a witness, as does the space that hosts it. We often mistake sight for an instantaneous encounter, but seeing is always an act of comparison: we measure what is before us against what was once there.

In responding to this site, the work took the place into itself. When it leaves, it carries the memory of Twin Barns at The Staats House wherever it goes next; the dialogue becomes part of its material history. Conversely, Twin Barns' own material history now carries the shadow of Edge Effect. To look into an empty barn after having seen it inhabited by this exhibition is to see it as the negative space of a memory.

©Valerie Shaff
©Valerie Shaff

The exhibition took place during the transition into autumn. How did the changing season and landscape influence the works and your curatorial approach?

Alix Becker and I began organising the exhibition in early summer. At that time, autumn was just a shift waiting to come. Truthfully, I didn't want to think about the change of seasons because I wanted summer to last as long as possible. Taking autumn into consideration meant accepting that, quite literally, the temperature would eventually drop and the colour palette of the landscape in which the show was situated would undergo a drastic shift.

Some of the works had been made well before the exhibition, such as those by Eric Wolf and Trenton Duerksen. I chose to include them because they perfectly suited both the space and the concept of the show. As the surroundings changed, they influenced the resonance of the work and the tone the viewer brought with them into the space. Margot Becker, however, made her work in direct response to spending time on the farm, creating weavings inspired by that landscape at that specific moment. As the landscape shifted towards autumn, the contrast between her work and its surroundings became more pronounced.

My own work spoke directly to this change of seasons, specifically through my time-lapse video of wilting flowers. The exact same thing was happening outside.

Eric Wolf, Rocks
Eric Wolf, Rocks

The exhibition explored different boundaries between the natural and the manufactured. Did working at Twin Barns change the way you think about this relationship?

My thinking on this subject did not change, because it is a question I have been working with for a long time. But the exhibition made tangible just how false that binary really is. We are conditioned to view the manufactured as a violation of the natural, but standing inside a timber-frame barn exposes the flaw in that thinking.

Those barns are evidence of Alix and David Becker's deep consideration of, and collaboration with, the landscape, its conditions and time itself. They renovated the barns so thoroughly that they can safely accommodate artwork in all mediums, regardless of exterior conditions. Yet, with the barn doors open, the spaces felt just as interior as they did exterior.

As an artist and curator, I would not put my work, or that of others, in just any barn. These barns were rebuilt with the utmost care and quality, which is the same language I speak. They elevated the interior without shutting out the exterior.

For Edge Effect, I showed a video of myself flying inside the American Museum of Natural History, kept aloft purely by the building's HVAC currents. The force moving the air is mechanical, and the kite is manufactured, yet the physics of flight (gravity, tension and lift) are as natural as the wind outside. Twin Barns insisted on this same truth: both the space and the work within it are facts, and neither is any less “natural” than the other.

Eric Wolf, Oquossoc
Eric Wolf, Oquossoc

Twin Barns sits within a landscape shaped by both cultivation and wilderness, while the buildings themselves carry centuries of human intervention. How did these layers of the site inform the exhibition?

A historic structure cannot hide its past. To bring art into a site like Twin Barns requires modesty. If the quality of the work demanded a museum space, the barns would make you look foolish. You have to acknowledge that eras of labour, livestock and weathering took place here long before our precious artwork arrived.

We chose to let the art sit among those layers. Trenton's sculptures carried the unpretentious intelligence of vernacular carpentry; Margot's weavings echoed the view from the windows in front of which they hung; Eric's landscapes reflected the surrounding terrain while holding their own in stark black-and-white contrast to the barn's dark wood; and my time-based works introduced a figurative anachronism against the grain of the space.

The exhibition was not an intervention, but an appropriate deposit laid upon the place. We live in a time when it has become normal to put artwork in a barn. This was not always the case!

©Valerie Shaff
©Valerie Shaff

Your work often looks at transformation and impermanence, from cut flowers to artificially generated weather. What does the process of dismantling an exhibition add to this exploration of temporality?

Dismantling forces the concept into physical reality. Our culture is desperate to hide the mechanics of decay, engineered to make objects appear invulnerable. But in my practice, decay is not a failure. Still, I must ensure that my work can be relatively archival while retaining its ability to capture the ephemeral.

De-installing a show refutes the illusion that art can somehow step outside the rhythm of living and dying. I don't exactly like this confrontation! However, the strict timeframe of an exhibition is precisely what grants it urgency. We pay attention to it only because we know it will not wait for us.

But it is never easy to part with a show, whether the work is going to a new home or back into the racks.

©Valerie Shaff
©Valerie Shaff

The interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

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